Rise From The Ashes

While actors fear AI, she discovered what robots can't replicate

Baz Porter® Episode 113

What if the thing that makes you most human is your greatest weapon against AI?

While actors everywhere panic about artificial intelligence taking their jobs, Cloe Xhauflaire discovered something that stopped her cold: robots can replicate technique, but they can never replicate a broken heart.

In Part 2, Cloe reveals why the acting industry's AI crisis isn't about better technology it's about human authenticity becoming the ultimate competitive advantage.

Her game-changing insight: "You're gonna compete with machines, you're gonna compete with robots that are gonna do better. But a robot can't be better if you stay human being. Humanity, stories shared by soul and authenticity that's what you wanna have as an actor."

If you're an actor terrified of being replaced, this episode will show you exactly how to become AI-proof through the one thing technology can never master: genuine emotional freedom.

Key Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:41 Cloe's Unique Authenticity
02:18 Journey to Building a Business
03:21 Creating a Safe Space for Actors
09:58 The Importance of Mindset
10:21 Challenges and Opportunities in the Industry
14:49 Cloe's Programs and Community
17:04 How to Connect with Cloe
19:46 Final Thoughts and Farewell

The AI-Proof Actor Formula: Fear of replacement → Understanding AI's limitations → Discovering authenticity as competitive advantage → Learning to access genuine emotions → Creating human authenticity vs AI → Building actor career survival skills → Becoming irreplaceable through emotional truth

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Speaker 1:

I don't know. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. We are part two of an amazing interview with Chloe. She has done a marvellous journey of a book and it's all about authenticity. I'm going to give it a plug because I can. I'm holding up. If you're on video, go and get it. The links are below. Have a read. But she's done so much more.

Speaker 1:

We talked about her journey through her partner, surviving or going through cancer, traveling the world and learning so much about other people, but more importantly, about herself and her authenticity, how she showed up in the world. What we're going to go into now is a little different, because she has something that no other person I believe on earth has. She has chesticles, and what I mean by that is she shows up in a way that is so authentic, so raw, but also so loving and kind to change people's lives and have impact, not only in her life but potentially and I know I've had plenty of conversations with her in so many other people's. But it was born from the ashes and I want to speak to her about, and you about that journey of how, the conception of what you do and what you've built from all the things you've gone through good, bad and different, but they've come to a centralized point where you now show up for others in such a compassionate way.

Speaker 1:

I very rarely see this, and that compassion is something that drives you and it's the center point of everything that you believe in and that's missing in the world. Quite frankly, I believe it's missing in so many aspects of the world because the world at the moment is so divided for many different reasons. But you've united within yourself and you've changed it not just into a program, a book, a podcast, but some other things as well, which we'll go into in a bit. But how did that all come? What was a realization for you? And coming into a business mindset of I'm not broken. I was never broken. Actually, I'm quite awesome, and this is what we're going to do.

Speaker 2:

I think I never had that one and that's the reason I think it was a journey. But what I noticed very early is that it's so funny. When I was a young actress, I did different auditions getting out of drama school and one thing was really crazy is that the three first auditions big audition I did for roles, my partner got chosen, my partner got the part and I was like, of course you're frustrated as an actress. Yeah, you're like what the heck? People started calling me to get help and to work with me because I was an amazing partner to lift them up. Basically back then, already right Now, I understood that years after, but then I was frustrated and then when I moved to New York and I saw that, what I noticed is that why act in, which is act inside you was born, is because it's the thing, the place where that I was looking, since ever I was looking for that as a young actress.

Speaker 2:

I was looking for a place when I could be safe, releasing everything that I needed to release. Feel free to fail, because that's the problem in this industry. Nobody wants to fail, they want to win, and we know in the business industry that you don't win unless you fail, and that's where I started building my company on. Okay, it started with one workshop giving to someone who wants to level up, who wants to understand how to get out of their own zone, and then another one and another one. And then, when I came to Europe, it was just because I knew there was tools that I got from America and tools that I got from Europe and that could be a mix to help them to level up. And so I created my first one in Paris, and then I went to Madrid and Barcelona and.

Speaker 2:

Milan and all that salon and then Milan and all that. So, basically, everything is always and still is just something coming from me willing to help someone, because I truly believe that's how we raise, we grow by ourselves. That's why that's how we lift each other and that's why the world should be. It's by helping someone else that you're going to be helped. Sometimes it doesn't happen that way, but I truly believe that's how we're going to be better in the world and do better.

Speaker 1:

What you're speaking to now is something dear to my heart and we align greatly on it. That's unity. It's bringing people together for a purpose that is greater than an outside influence. It's driven by a belief, if you will, whether it be that belief in themselves, in god, universe, whatever you call it. It's driving us, but mentioned it earlier, and that was to give more, to be a part of something much bigger than ourselves. And from an outsider looking in on your world. That's what you give to other people through your journey. You have a unique experience.

Speaker 1:

People dress these up and they downgrade them uh, coaching, life coaching, mentorship but in my own experience, the best mentors, the best coaches, the best guides are the ones who have been there, done it, got the t-shirt in your case, you've got the movie, the film, etc. Etc. And now you're applying all that skill sets and you've put it into a very elegant way of a of a personality online. That's approachable, it's understandable but, most importantly, it's relatable. Your brand, everything you live, your brand. It's not something you do outside of you. It's a part of your identity. What I find very interesting is you're the result of everything that your clients are going through right now and the people who find you know what you're going to deliver, because you are the result of it. What specific problems do people approach you with normally? How do they find you? What's the common question they ask you when you get on the call with them, when they approach you on social media?

Speaker 2:

The first thing they know is that my nickname in New York is Sweet Dragon, so I'm really strict, but I'm also like a mother. But how do they find me? First, I'm on social media and I have my website and all that. But the question they get from them is how do I book more roles? Something is holding me back to get to the full potential I want. What's the diagnosis? What is wrong with me and why am I not seen? Why am I not recognized the way I want? Why am I not accessing to my full potential? And basically, that's what I witnessed for the last 15 years and plus, because I probably witnessed that in my family and in the environment I grew up in, and so I looked at all that and I'm like, okay, what's the common thing between all those people? And it's this freedom from childhood and rewriting your story. You're never going to be.

Speaker 2:

One thing that I want to say is that, in my way of working, there's the method acting inside and it's controversial in Europe, but because we're working on ourselves.

Speaker 2:

But there's a difference between working on yourself when you know, with someone thoughtful and caring about who you are, and just using the struggle and the horrible moment you had in your life and just lifted that to an acting thing and suffering in acting.

Speaker 2:

My desire was for actors to really feel like they can bring everything they've been through, because the shit I've been through in Australia is something that I did not want to remember only as a shit. It's something that I wanted to bring into my eyes to help someone else to feel something. So the idea is really okay. You don't feel like you're complete, you don't feel like you are fully yourself, you don't feel like you're free. When you're in a camera, what's going on? What's going on? What's the thing that holds you back and that you feel like you're not allowed to show? And then we hear that. Then we understand that we can use it appropriately because we choose to and not because someone else, a big person, is coming and say, hey, do that for me, just because you know your instrument and you do it from a place of freedom I love that and I want to touch on something now.

Speaker 1:

That is, it's to do with mindset and your state of viewing not just yourself, but from an actor's point of view. Why is it so important that mind states or mindsets for the people who you're working with has to raise, and you've got to raise your own standard with that? Why is that so important in this day and age?

Speaker 2:

AI is everywhere Industry, the economy. The world is changing. Regarding our industry is unbelievably scary for the world in our industry. So I think it's really necessary today to have a right mindset, to know who you are, and your authenticity and your own creativity must be unlocked in order for you to compete and to do the Aikido method to really fight in an appropriate way and not fighting and resist, because this is not going to go away, it's just okay.

Speaker 2:

This is a huge wave in front of me. What do I do as an actor? How can I find my own way through this? And I truly believe that it's going to be through authenticity. It's going to be through your own creativity, and your own creativity is only available if you feel fully free to express yourself, because otherwise you're going to compete with machines. You're going to compete with robots that are going to do better, but a robot can be better if he's locked in a robot. But a human being stay a human being. Humanity, stories that are shared by soul and authenticity and all the emotions. That's what you want to have as an actor and that's how we're going to win, and that's what I want for actors to feel like they still matters, because that's the question today as well. How do I still matter? I'm like like, yes, you do, because we need that, and especially also for stage actor. Right, they need to have this humanity, this possible vessel to share everything and give access to other.

Speaker 1:

I love that. What you're speaking to now is something that I think is missing around the world or not spoken enough about. The authenticity of somebody makes you yourself unique, but everybody's chasing what they see or they feel is acceptable. Online Social media. They did this in the 80s, 90s, 2000s. Well, they put swim models in the front pages of all these magazines, the Victoria's Secret models, whoever these people were. But they had a dramatic effect on the younger generation. They now view themselves they have to have this model zero body, they have to have flawless face features and all the rest of it. But it wasn't real life. And what's happened now? And you mentioned AI.

Speaker 1:

Ai has a remarkable effect, positive and negative. I like to use it positively in life, in my business, for resource understanding and learning, but equally, it can be manipulated for a darker side. There's always a light and a dark of what we do, but you're seeing now the darker side of it in magazines, because it's now come out saying that's airbrushed, this has been touched up, they have to look symmetrical, perfect. But newsflash listeners, life isn't perfect. We are not perfect. There's no such thing as perfection in human beings. It's a flaw that we have what Chloe, and I love. What she's speaking about is use that authenticity, use that light within you to uncover a deeper level of who you truly are, not who the organizations, corporate, etc. Want you to think you are. And Chloe is the result of doing deep work, understanding who she is and then aligning with that person deep within her, and then aligning with that person deep within her. The trials, tribulations and everything else goes with it are signatures and testimony to her doing the work. What's next on your agenda? What's next? What's Chloe 2.1?

Speaker 2:

What I created this year without knowing. I experienced that last year I was finishing a workshop in Paris and then I decided to do a follow-up because it was a gift for actors, and I said you know what, for 12 weeks we're going to go and explore together once a week and basically it created a program. I have an online program with one level and then you can reach another level that is called Unbreakable, and Unbreakable is really giving 12 weeks of your work and what I do is that once a week, you meet with me and other followers on Zoom for an audition. Basically, it's not an audition, it's a meeting every week. But what's cool is that I mimic what's happening in the industry, because we have self-tapes, we have the audition live, we have Zoom classes. We have all that. So the idea is to really give them, like maybe four days before, maybe an hour before, maybe a monologue, maybe a scene, maybe something, and then I work. Also, in the program we have a vision clan.

Speaker 2:

The vision clan is really creating a vision as an actor, because what I noticed, our industry has no big community and we miss the possibility to feel like we have actors together and helping each other and so, with that acting really create a community when actors can worldwide help each other. So that means that if tomorrow I have an audition for America, I can find someone in America, I can find someone in Madrid, but I can find someone in Australia, I can find someone in Russia, anywhere in the world. I have actors who are accountable to help each other because they worked with me for an amount of time and we create that together to help each other. This is really crucial is that this community is helping each other and they have to work together and that's so cool to do. That's what I was missing Again. It's basically everything I'm doing today is what I was missing again. It's a basically everything I'm doing today is what I was missing as a young actress that I would have loved to have to level up, and that's what I'm creating today.

Speaker 1:

I love what you're doing. I love that you're so passionate about it. So, if someone wants to work with you yes, you're online, linkedin and Instagram and all the rest of it. How do people find you? How do people get hold of you? What's your expectation when they come and see you? Because people don't just come and see you for a mediocre little conversation. They have to have an objective. You're looking for a specific sort of person, so I want to get really precise for this.

Speaker 2:

What I noticed is that someone who wants to level up and free, because I don't have only actors, I have any kind of artist who wants to get out. I had a lawyer before who wanted to come. I have a musician. I have people who want to get out of their comfort zone and feeling free to express themselves on stage as well. So even when you have to work in front of an audience, that works. But of course, my Instagram is where you can find content and when I suggest things, I have a newsletter as well.

Speaker 2:

What I offer usually is for people who really want to see if they match with me. I have a 15 minutes free call with them, an introduction call, and see where I can lead them. When they never, an actor will right away book a workshop because they know by reputation what they're going to have. It's mainly a wealth of math that works for me. Mainly I did my reputation like this, but when you don't know and you want to see a little bit what it's all about and who is that chick, you just email me contact at actineverywherecom. Actually, be careful. Acting doesn't have a G. It's act in, so it's acting inside you and it's a little game with the name, but it's act in E-N-G without the G Actineverywherecom. And then I have a beautiful assistant who's going to take care of my calendar and find a 15 minutes call if that's needed.

Speaker 2:

Otherwise, instagram, linkedin and the book and see from there. By the way, in the book there is a QR code that leads to a workbook and in the workbook you start really doing the work, and with that book I'm offering as well a little gift. So you just have to know that will be there and you just start from there. Start from breaking down a script, having fun with that, see how it goes, and then it will be translated as well. I'm translating in French now. It's going to be done in the end of a month. It's very difficult to translate in French because I'm speaking English more than French, although French is my first language. And, yeah, go from there and see where you want to go, what's your next level, what do you see, what's the vision, and from there, I'm going to diagnose and see how I can help you.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I really admire who you are, where you've come from and your journey, and I know the audience will do the same and honor your commitment to yourself with sharing to others. Chloe, you're amazing and I really thank you for being here with me today, and I want the audience to know that you're only a step away from changing someone's life. You're only a step away from changing someone's life. Chloe has not just herself, but for many people who have come across her. She's inspired me with different things and she goes on and inspires so many others. So share the message today just with somebody who may need a little bit of inspiration From myself. Thank you very much. It's been an honor. Chloe, you're amazing. Please continue doing what you're doing and if there's any way I can support you, just reach out and say hi.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, same from you.

Speaker 1:

From my audience have an amazing day On purpose. You're all amazing. Thank you very much for your love, support and I'm forever grateful this show would not exist if it wasn't for you. From again, rise From the Ashes podcast. I'm Baz Porter, this was Chloe O'Flair and I hope I said that right. Bravo, it's great to be here 10 months, anyway, for myself. Thank you very much. Please share the message. Much love to you all and I'll

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