Rise From The Ashes
"Burnout to Brilliance: Great CEOs, No Burnout"
Leadership is tough. Burnout makes it tougher.
But it doesn’t have to be that way. Rise From The Ashes is the ultimate podcast for visionary CEOs and executives who refuse to let burnout rob them of their brilliance, legacy, and impact.
Hosted by Baz Porter, this show isn’t just about surviving leadership it’s about transforming it. Each week, we delve deep into the art and science of thriving at the top, combining actionable strategies, spiritual alignment, and raw truths that reignite your purpose and optimize your energy.
Here’s what you’ll get:
- Bold Frameworks: Learn the exact steps to conquer decision fatigue, streamline your mental energy, and reclaim control of your leadership.
- Spiritual Awakenings: Explore the intersection of purpose, alignment, and success to lead with clarity and connection.
- Transformational Insights: Hear unfiltered stories and practical wisdom from world-class leaders who’ve turned their burnout into brilliance.
This isn’t just a podcast it’s a revolution for leaders ready to rise, inspire, and leave a legacy that outlasts them.
Rise From The Ashes
Burnt Out, Broken, Back: A Dad’s Revival (Part 2)
What if burnout wasn’t your breaking point, but the breakthrough you’ve been waiting for?
In this powerful follow-up episode, Hinesh Chauhan shares how he transformed overwhelming exhaustion and life’s biggest challenges into resilience, clarity, and purpose.
Discover the step-by-step strategies that fueled his comeback: optimizing sleep, embracing movement, and transforming nutrition into medicine for the body and mind. Hinesh reveals how mindfulness practices like meditation and reconnecting with nature provided the foundation for his emotional and mental recovery. Plus, find out why rekindling childlike creativity through music, building, and playful activities can reignite joy and unlock untapped potential.
But this episode isn’t just about wellness it’s about building a legacy. Hinesh shares visionary insights on leadership, showing how connection, collaboration, and community can solve even the toughest challenges. From addressing societal issues like affordable housing to fostering resilience in others, he explains how aligning with purpose and intent transforms personal growth into collective impact.
This isn’t just another podcast episode it’s your blueprint for turning burnout into brilliance, one intentional step at a time. Whether you’re a leader, parent, or simply someone seeking more, this conversation will leave you inspired to rise again and build a life of meaning, joy, and contribution.
Key Takeaways:
- The science and strategy behind overcoming burnout
- How mindfulness, creativity, and play restore energy and focus
- Visionary leadership lessons for personal and societal transformation
- Practical tools for building resilience and leaving a meaningful legacy
🎧 Your transformation begins here—tune in now, and take the first step toward reclaiming your brilliance.
Friends, as our time together comes to a close, I want to express my deepest gratitude. Thank you for joining me on this bold journey of self-discovery and leadership. My mission is to help you rise from burnout to brilliance, because Great CEOs deserve No Burnout.
If this episode struck a chord with you, please share it with someone who could use its message. Together, we can spark a revolution in leadership, one conversation at a time.
I’d love to hear from you whether it’s your biggest aspirations, your toughest challenges, or the lessons you’re uncovering. My door is always open, physically in Boulder or digitally at www.ramsbybaz.com.
Ready to take things deeper?
If you’re tired of confusion and craving clarity on your path to purpose, let’s work together.
Visit my site and schedule a coaching session to discover how the RAMS framework transforms results, breaks limits, and builds legacies.
This is Baz Porter, signing off with immense gratitude. Stay bold, stay true, and remember you always have a partner in your corner who knows the weight you carry and the greatness you’re capable of.
Until next time, keep rising.
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back and it's part two of this episode of rise from ashes, and I'm interviewing hanish hanish awesome, that's new enough. I'm sorry we were speaking in part one about burnout and his journey from burnout into thriving today, through his divorce and separation, but also collaboration and recognizing the burnout of the symptoms of burnout and going into deeper aspects of himself. It's about joining a movement, not just with an external part of you, but an internal part of you, because the movement always starts internally. For the viewers, what did you get out of the first one? Let me know, send me an email, send me a comment, subscribe to the channel, share this content because it helps us grow, helps you and us understand where we are and how we can help you.
Speaker 1:I want to go into strategical aspects of burnout and how you implemented some of these changes in your life, because change doesn't happen overnight. You and I both know that it happens over a period of time and you said it earlier, it's about compounding little changes. What were these steps originally? You mentioned some of them last time, but what were the steps originally you started with?
Speaker 2:Because they form the foundation of everything else they do, and the methodology that brought me there is what translates into all aspects of my life. But for personal day-to-day wellness, holistic wellness, to function at your best, I spend a lot of time overthinking, analyzing and bringing data points together to understand what that will yield. And so I think the basics that everybody understands say you need good sleep, which I still. Only got my first piece of wearable tech this spring because it was my driver to measure and monitor, because what gets measured gets managed. My sleep, because it's always the variable, it's. I want to do so much, I just won't sleep. Get it done. So sleep, fundamental nutrition. I forgot which greek philosopher said it let medicine be thy food and your food thy medicine. That's absolutely true, absolutely true. Movement get the fuck off your ass. Do something anything. Yeah, even if it's that jump. So I'm having my coffee brew in the morning, I'll just bounce. That's me waking up and getting my lymphatic system pumping, because it doesn't have a pump, and then I'll take breaks and go outside and skip rope. I do body weight squats while I brush my teeth, pushups throughout the day, but the goal is to do a minimum of 100 of each of those Bare minimum. That's the baseline. So movement and then other things that I enjoy doing outside and with my kids.
Speaker 2:Next is mindfulness meditation, spirituality, prayer. Take time every day and I've got metrics around everything 20 minutes, that's what you should target. 20 minutes of being able to connect or check in every day with yourself, to just take 10 mindful breaths every hour to recenter yourself. Next one is time in nature. Nature is healing. Get that F out of your artificial environment. Get in nature, with or without music, a podcast, and you'll find, as you do it, more you'll want to remove any outside influence. You want to remove that podcast, to just take in the sounds, to see the leaves, to see the path, to see the sky. Breathe it in, take it in, allow your senses to just open up and take that in. So important.
Speaker 2:And the last one, which was pretty elusive, was as a child. We're creative and there's studies that show that every kid has a level of genius at a certain age and that diminishes with age as they're forced to conform with society, what they're taught, how they're taught to think, and you lose that creativity. And I thought about I'm always doing comparison of lessons learned, best practices, when was I at this state, this emotion, effective in these areas? What did my life look like? What would my thinking have been? So, trying to bring myself back to those states. Okay, when I was a competitive martial artist, I had these, my sleep was better, I had no psoriasis and bringing whatever practices into my day life.
Speaker 2:When I was a kid, I loved to draw, I loved to build Lego, create things and realize that what really drives me it's playing piano. It's started to compose, cooking, building things. I have some weird inventions, and including an incredible potato gun that my neighbors love me for, where we gather for driveway beers and fire this thing down the street. It's a cannon, not a gun. It's fun and realize that's fun. Why would you cheat yourself? When you're a child, you have this innocence of having fun. Incorporate those aspects into your life. I'm 46. My daughter is 15. I was building snowmen with her last week because why not? It's fun. Bring those elements back into it. That has to be the foundation. Without that, you can't heal, you can't ramp up again to your full capacity because, coming out of burnout, you think that you'll be back to your full capacity within months. It's going to take at least two years, that's it, and I think I was stuck at about 80 until only, I'd say, within the last year, where I've now reached that I feel I'm at 100% capacity.
Speaker 1:Wow and to say that's incredible the journey, and then come and sticking with it, because it takes discipline to actually stick with it all the way, because people are human beings and they go, oh yeah, I'm going to do that. And then they get about two or three weeks, six months, even eight months, and I'll just wean off and I'll just be comfortable and I lose it all and I've stuck in.
Speaker 2:It's a thing that always happens and, in that process, to be really compassionate with yourself. Be compassionate as you treat others, as, as the dalai lama says. I think that if there's more patience, love and compassion, the world it would be a better place. So what you practice with others, do with yourself as well.
Speaker 1:I love that. Please write, go back, pause it, go write this down because that is gold when you're looking at self-development, personal development, self-development, elevating for that next step. The other thing that happens on sort of these journeys and you meant you alluded it to earlier spirituality. Spirituality isn't religion. It isn't confiding to a known subject matter. It's an internal exploration. You and all of us are energy. Leadership is about building vision and also legacy for yourself. How does this connect with your deeper values and also your spiritual beliefs to sustain not just your energy but your environment's energy, your people, your close friends. How does that affect you and you? What's your long-term vision for that?
Speaker 2:it's a big question. Um, I thought that might be, and please bring me back if I'm going off. Of course, in listening you talk about, what you just did made me think about working with different teams, horizontal subordinates, those above. No matter who it is my kids, their mom, neighbors, friends, it's all the same. My long-term vision is to improve outcomes for everybody, everybody, and I've got an incredible skillset that I've been blessed with based on the challenges I've had to face personally and professionally and bringing that to people in the organizations. If you ask my kids so I'll just digress a bit here you ask my kids what does everybody want to be, or what does everybody want to feel, they'll tell you they want to be. They want to feel seen, heard and understood, as Oprah expressed for all our guests that came on her stage. And in raising my kids, I've been very intentional. If you ask them what's your dad's credo in raising you? And it's for them to be resourceful, resilient, empathetic, critical thinkers, and I share that because that's my framework for how I work and develop people. Whether it's supporting that CEO, whether it's supporting that political leader, it's lonely at the top and whether it's a team or that high-ranking official CEO, it's to have them feel seen, heard and understood.
Speaker 2:You have a lot on your plate you want to be able to provide. You need to have an effective board relationship. You need to be able to demonstrate value to stakeholders. You're under a lot, but let's first acknowledge who you are, what you're doing and the impact you're making and the progress. We have to celebrate our wins and then look at what's on their plate and making it less overwhelming and understanding the long-term impact and vision. And same thing for a team, my kids or community is why are we doing what we're doing? If we're going to do it, we have to have heart, intent and effort go into it. So until we're clear on that and the outcome we're trying to achieve and for what purpose, that intent piece is really important. That's your baseline. The first thing is establishing that baseline and getting buy-in by being real and understanding where people are coming from.
Speaker 1:I love that. So what did you? When you're going into that the abyss is what I'm going to call that, because that's so many layers for what you do as a person and also in your professional life how does that translate into a vision for your legacy and your energy, your spirituality? How does that form and how do they overlap to build not just a foundation but actually that forward momentum for your future generations?
Speaker 2:It's looking at what drove me away from the things I was doing.
Speaker 1:So if we take government, Previous experience, bringing it into translatable context forward. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:So, as an example, it's heartbreaking to realize your government doesn't have its country's most basic needs covered. So housing, affordable housing, creating a crisis that anyone that did the first year course of economics could have seen coming and realizing when you've done large infrastructure initiatives and understand the space of wealth, I can't stand by. You're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution, and I always seek to be part of the solution. How can I change this? And having a vision, as I did that meta-analysis I spoke about earlier, about how do we create increased connection, collaboration and community and look at other models in the world and then start building my army, start sharing that vision, having that visualization of what this could look like for communities, for Canadians, for Americans, for others around the world, to increase wellness and knowing you can do it, having that vision, understanding what it could feel like as that gets created and impact others and help others and bring all these benefits. Sharing that vision, with that energy, transference of the passion that's behind it and bringing people along for the ride and solving the problems along the way. You don't have to worry about the how up front Understand the problem. You don't have to worry about the how up front, understand the problem, start bringing people together who are the proponents to help implement, deliver, execute, make this happen. And it comes back to the military, which is really interesting because I've got different steps, different things to remind me that. Just outline my process. One of them is the 16 steps of battle procedure, but in the NATO format for order is the first piece of situation.
Speaker 2:You talk about your mission and you talk about the intent. The intent is so key. It's so key to explain that. An example I use in workshops and in coaching is if I tell my kid, go get me a glass of juice, goes to the fridge, there's no juice, comes back, sorry, no juice. But if I tell him, can you get me a glass of juice because I'm thirsty, he's going to go there, realize there's no juice, get me a glass of water and come back. That's how you can mobilize more people, plus other aspects of accountability and metrics. But the more you share it with the intent and for how it serves others and my spirituality is knowing that I'm capable of doing this and being able to picture the creation of this and sharing it with others Does that answer?
Speaker 1:No, a hundred percent, and thank you for that. I already like that definition. If someone wanted to find you and they want to get in contact, where's the best place? The links will be below, but from your own mouth where do you go, who do you serve and also, what are you looking for from them when they come and see you?
Speaker 2:Thank you, baz. You can find me at my main website, which is evoluteconsultcom, and there's also decentdivorcedultcom and there's also DecentDivorcedDadscom. But who I look to serve are those with the largest challenges, and it's usually related to organizations the CEOs that are facing regulatory challenges that don't know the best way, or they may think they know, because really you don't know what you don't know, and every discovery conversation is huh, I never thought about that the best way. Or they may think they know, because really you don't know what you don't know, and something that comes up in every discovery conversation is huh, I never thought about that. Every damn conversation.
Speaker 2:And it is to get them to be more effective in terms of leading and managing their organization, having an effective board and board relationship about reducing risk, which I think is the forefront of everything I do is risk mitigation, and I am extremely strong to give you an example in managing nine and 10 figure annual budgets, where there's capital budgets with an acceptable variance rate of 20%, I landed consistently over my career under half a percent because of the risk mitigation, and so risk isn't everything we do, and having someone support you in identifying the hurdles or the things that are going to impact you decrease revenue, not pivot fast enough to market stimuli.
Speaker 2:Those are the individuals that I can best serve to improve community impact, improve organizational outcomes and to really it's mobilize people without complex change or risk management strategies that the big four firms would come in and implement over an extended, really Sorry. And so being able to have that discussion at minimum and understand what your blind spots may be is where I can best serve them and the leaders that are the dads that are trying to balance it all. That's where my heart lies. It's their kids and supporting them, because they're the leaders that are suffering silently, without being able to be transparent and vulnerable in what they're facing, while hemorrhaging child support payments and alimony or spousal support payments based on our legislative system, and being able to just get them to be great parents, create a healthy co-parenting relationship and continue to lead their organization, while having that internal peace and freedom.
Speaker 1:I love that. Thank you for sharing that, and that's I like the way you presented that to the audience. It was refreshing because you're actually given substance to what you do, and that's very important. Before we go today, I like to give people a little challenge, because life's full of challenges. If I asked you to take a bold action today and you could be as vulnerable as you'd like into transformation, from burnout into the brilliance of who you're stepping into, what could you commit to yourself not to me, to yourself to rise and start rising again today.
Speaker 2:Me personally.
Speaker 2:Yes personal connection, but spend more time with the people that feed you, that are your cheerleaders, that are the champions and in in the course I created for divorced dads, a decent divorced dad, I've got a section. It's three modules. The first is stop the pain, accept your situation, establish your baseline and then lead yourself and others on your new journey. From the first module it's going into what is damaging you, and I have the students identify the sales and the anchors in their life. Who are the people that is better in their life, that it's great to hang around, probably have several drinks and just commiserate not the type of people that are going to set you forward and are helping your healing. It's the sails, the ones that blow wind in your sail and help you move forward and are there with you, and it is that healthy connection that you need. So that's what's needed.
Speaker 2:I think the first step is just getting that positive energy, relationship, love from the people that truly have your best interest at heart and are not looking to spend time with you. And this is something I also realized was when you're down, there's other people that are going to be in your life more because they're enjoying seeing you kick down, because it makes them feel better. Be aware of that. Be discerning in why people want to spend time with you and who you spend time with, and understand what you get out of it. And look to see what moves you forward and your mission, vision and purpose in life to help you heal, grow and be the best you can be.
Speaker 1:I love that. The reason I've got my eyes closed for those people watching on video is because I'm actually digesting what he's saying and if you go back and rewind it and pause it and then do the same, you'll understand what I mean. Thank you very much for your time, your energy and your love here. It's been amazing and I highly encourage everybody to share this and inspire someone else's life.
Speaker 2:Thank you, baz, and I want to say as well and sorry I cut you off, I saw your digital Thank you for having me, for doing what you do and understanding your mission and how you're looking to serve and support others and the skills you bring, based on your own journey, and what you shared earlier to me, before the camera started rolling, was significant, was moving and just getting a glimpse of what you've gone through to grow, to improve, to bring these lessons, support and techniques, tricks, wisdom, to others is so meaningful. So thank you for all that you do and for having me on today.
Speaker 1:Thank you. That means a lot to me, very much, and this is why this exists because of these conversations. I love doing this. This isn't a chore. This is literally I love doing. This isn't a chore. This is literally I love doing this for my listeners. Thank you very much for joining and joining us. Thank you very much for tuning into this second episode. Please share it. Inspire someone else's life. Remember burnout isn't just stealing your energy. It's stealing your brilliance, your purpose and also your legacy. Leadership is too important to let burnout win. Subscribe now. Join the movement of leaders transforming burnout into brilliance, purpose and generational impact. Your journey starts today. Thank you very much for listening for another episode of Rice Me Ash's podcast and Ash, thank you very much for joining me and I hope to speak to you very soon. Absolutely Thank you.
